This was a Hungarian fighter unit whose motto was "Our leader is courage Luck is our wingman" It's leader was Aladar de Heppes Anybody have any info on it Thanks everyone!:nitro:
Hi Homer ! I found this ... just to keep you going .... the experts will be here soon !! (1904 - ?) He was CO of 1/101 V.Szd. On 6th May 1945 he surrounded ( ? ) to Americans then he emigrated in USA. Alternative number of kills - 10, 8(4). Eastern front - Battle of USSR (1942-1944) Eastern Europe Liberation (1944-1945) Aircraft - Hungary - Messerschmitt Bf.109G Gustav WINGS PALETTE - Pilots Air War's Greatest Aces... - Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums
My first port of call for WW2 aces is Aces of WWII Going to Hungarian page, Heppes is listed but with no further information. But where Debrody is listed, there is a link about Debrody that mentions Puma squadron WW II ACE STORIES
Are you looking for somebody in particular Homer ?? I found this with some flyers listed Hungarian Aces of World War 2 - Google Book Search This might be a good book to have ... thats if you don't already have it !! Annie
Sorry! oster_oops:Thanks so much everyone! I sure hope I haven't been rude by not saying thanks until now but I Really am sorry! Uh, well, I was wondering, how many 2 engined planes they shot down
oster_oops:No It's just that I doubt that the Puma squadron have as much success against U.S. heavy bombers as the Luftwaffe did so, I'm hoping that they shot down a lot of twin engin a/c (East or West front):cc_hang:
Doubt they would get much success given this quote from Annie's post above. Probably their best bet for twin-engined encounters would have been against the Russians or maybe intruders ranging from the south. The book/s Annie listed above will certainly clarify the matter.
I'm not trying to be wise guy or trouble maker Honestly! I really thought that the Puma pilots probably had a lot more succes against twin engined a/c than the Heavy bombers I swear I'm not trying to be a trouble maker! I'm sorry if I offended anyone!oster_oops:
You're right, mate, we're just nosy and like to know what people's inspirations are as well as every other detail!
Don't apologise Homer .... I'm the one who should apologise !! I just thought you maybe researching information for a game ... ( it was me just thinking out loud !! :doh: ) I'll keep looking !!
Thought youmaybe interested in this .... Messerschmitt Bf 109 The Bf 109 was also used with good results by non-German pilots, such as the Finnish fighter ace Ilmari Juutilainen with 94 victories, the highest scoring non-German fighter ace in World War II [4], Romanian fighter ace Alexandru Şerbănescu with 47 victories, Croatian fighter ace Mato Dukovac with 44 victories and Hungarian fighter ace Szentgyörgyi Dezső with 34 victories. Messerschmitt Bf 109 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In the Puma Group The 101st "Puma" Fighter Group was formed on 01 May 1944. Szentgyörgyi was transferred to the 101/2 "Retek" (Radish) Fighter Squadron. He continued to score his kills among the Pumas, and 6 American planes fell to his guns. By the summer of 1944 he was a flight leader. He was promoted to Ensign on 16 November 1944. After the "American Season" ended, once again Soviet fighters became the main enemy. Dezső scored an additional 17 kills, the last on 15 April 1945. He never crashed a plane due to pilot error nor was he ever shot down. By the end of the war he had made more than 220 sorties, and had 29 (+ 1 German) confirmed kills; the most successful Hungarian fighter pilot. Szentgyörgyi Dezs& - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
:doh:Thanks everybody for not taking offense I got worried that I was making all of you mad ! Thanks so much for understanding! I never ever mean to offend! I recall reading a site dealing w/ WW2 in Yugoslavia and there was so many insulting threads among the members! I quit referring to it!
It may be about lack of opportunity. Twin-engine bombers didn't play huge part in the Soviet Air Force. They had Il-4s (also known as DB-3s) and Pe-2s of their own, and SB2s in the early days, and some Lend-Lease Mitchells and Bostons. But the bulk of the fighting was done by Shturmoviks and the single-engine fighters. If you look at the list of victories claimed by the top German aces, Hartman, Barkhorn et al, they do have a few of the twin-engined types in the list, but most of the victims were single-engined types. Part of the reason for this may not only have been lack of opportunity, but due to these aces racking up their scores by attacking the fighters and Il-2s that they found in small numbers, rather than large formations of bombers. It has been suggested that one reason the Luftwaffe lost the war despite their superiority in equipment (at least at the start) and training, was that their highly-talented aces had poor leadership, and they were never given the specific orders to attack the bombers which were doing the damage to the ground forces. In which case, the Hungarians would have followed their example.
As I'm not well up on aircraft :noidea: ... I wondered if S-328s would be what you're looking for !! ( this mentions the Hungarians !! ) Slovak Air Force
I meant the Tupolev SB, also known by its service designation of ANT-40, roughly equivalent to the RAF's Blenheim Tupolev SB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This is relevant to Homer's question, in that at the beginning of the war, the SB/ANT 40 was numerically a major element of the Soviet Air Force, but by the end or even the middle of the war, much of its work was being done by Shturmoviks, much as in the case of the RAF, many jobs that had been done by the Blenheim at the beginning of the war - attacks on airfields for instance - could be done by Typhoon fighter-bombers. These days, the bomber as such is virtually extinct except for the US and Russian strategic forces; most air forces use fighter-bombers. So, by 1944 there weren't many twin-engine types for the Hungarian forces to attack.
