Any numismatic experts here?

Discussion in 'Barracks' started by David Layne, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    I would be grateful if someone could come up with a value of the attached gold coloured coin. It is dated 1791 and bears the head of George III.

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  2. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

  3. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    I was curious about the current value but I believe its a fake.
     
  4. liverpool annie

    liverpool annie New Member

    While you're waiting for your answer David ... heres some trivia !! :)


    It is often thought that the half-guinea is valued at ten shillings and sixpence, but in fact the value of the coin varied significantly between ten shillings and fifteen shillings, depending on the value of gold at the time.

    The word guinea stemmed from the origin of the gold used for some of the coins in the early days of their issue. Coins made from gold which originated in Guinea in Africa had an elephant and castle symbol on the obverse under the bust of the King.

    During the reign of George III the ornate shield originally used was changed to one in the shape of a pointed spade, thus the term spade-guinea (or strictly in this case, spade half-guinea).
     
  5. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    An original seems to vary between £300 and £700 (evilbay prices) though that could have something to do with the gold content, as Annie is said
     
  6. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    Interesting information Annie, thanks a lot.

    Kyt I truly believe my coin is a fake, the colour is not right for gold.
     
  7. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    Can't find my damn reference book.

    OK from a bit of trawling a 1791 George III half guinea is worth:

    110 (Fine) 240(Very Fine) 500(Extremely Fine)

    However that is a gold half guinea in near uncirculated condition.

    However I am wondering if it may be a very battered, possibly previously buried silver shilling. In which case its worth in good condition:

    1787ish 15(Fine) 30(Very Fine) 80(Extremely Fine)

    Need my damn book for photo referencing. David can you have a look on the edge, give it a rub with your finger and see if the discolouration comes off as if it is silver?
     
  8. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    I gave it a rub as Kitty suggested but nothing came off.

    I then gave it to my wife who has some chemicals for testing whether a metal is gold or not, it failed miserably and as my wife said it has no weight to it, so my original suspicions have been confirmed, it's a fake!
     
  9. Keith

    Keith New Member

    Hi Kyt,
    Curiosity forced me to open your Coins of George III.
    Did you notice that the heads were very varied, hardly any showing a likeness to one of the others.
    The last one, if it wasn't so long ago showing a definite sexual transformation.
    :rolleyes:
    Cheers
    Keith
     
  10. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    There were at least 6 'Heads' throughout George III's life time. This is the fifth head.

    David can your wife test for silver? If its quite a thin coin with no real weight I am inching towards a silver shilling. Looks very similar to the two Charles II shillings I have tucked away.
     
  11. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    Kitty I would imagine she can test for silver, I will ask her.

    Like you I have stuff tucked away, I found an 1806 penny a couple of days ago.

    I have always been a pack rat and have a multitude of items in boxes and tins.
     
  12. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    Can't move in most of my room now for boxes full of stuff I've bought over the last 15 years. Not even sure which particular box the coins are in.
     

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