Who is this man and where did he come from ?

I'll type it in word and copy and paste ... Will get back to ya ...

Heres the 40th
40th Div : Maj Gen J Ponsonby


Battle of Estaires 9-11 4 /1918 XV CORPS First ARMY
Battle Hazebrouck 12-13 /4 1918 XV CORPS Second ARMY


119TH BRIGADE BRIGADIER F P CROZIER

13TH WANDSWORTH EAST SURREYS
21ST (ISLINGTON ) MIDDLESEX
18TH ( 2ND GLAMORGAN PALS) WELSH


120TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN C J HOBKIRK

10/11TH HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
14TH ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIHLANDERS
2NDROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
14TH HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY

121ST BRIGADE BRIG GEN J CAMPBELL
12TH EAST ANGLIAN ( SUFFOLKS)
20TH SHOREDITCH ( MIDDLESEX)
13TH YORKSHIRES

Pioneers: 12th YORKSHIRES (Tees side Pioneers)

I 'll just go and do the 55th

here you go ..
55th Division ( WEST LANCASHIRE) MAJ GEN H S JEUDWINE

BATTLE OF ESTAIRES 9-11/4/1918 –(XI CORPS FIRST ARMY)
BATTLE OF HAZEBROUCK 12-15/ 4 1918 ( I CORPS FIRST ARMY )

164th North Lancashire- Brigade Brig. Gen. C. I. STOCKWELL

1/4TH KINGS OWN
1/4TH LOYAL NORTH LANCASHIRES
2/5TH LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

165TH ( LIVERPOOL) BRIGADE; Brig Gen L B BOYD-MOSS
1/5TH KING’S
1/6TH S( LEEDS RIFLES) KING’S
1/7TH KING’S

166TH (SOUTH LANCASHIRE ) BRIGADE Brig Gen R J KENTISH
1/5TH KING’S OWN
1/5TH SOUTH LANCASHIRES
1/10TH( LIVERPOOL SCOTTISH) KING’S
Pioneers 1/4th SOUTH LANCASHIRES
on reflection the order of battle for the Battles of the Lys are 5 pages long !! ERM ... Maybe not

 

Hi Poll, I'm not aware of there being any way to avoid the time out other than what you've done in your next post - cut and paste. However, looking at what you typed, you can't have had that long before you were timed out (or are you reeeally slow at typing? ).

I'll get back to you.

 

Well It does include s the time I took to find it in my Ypres Book...and make a cup of coffee to help stay awake !!

 

Trust you !!!!!!!!!!!

 

When I look at the Order of Battle it would probably be quicker to name the regiments that were not in the area at that time.. Would it help to just list the Divisions that were there ? I 'm happy to do a copy tomprrow and people can obtain it from me via email ...dont want to infringe any copyright laws by posting a copy on here ..
Poll

 

Well .... give yourself a rest and drink your coffee !! and lets see what we can find on the ones you've already given us !!

Thanks for doing that though Poll !!

 

If I use the scanner now I'll wake up OH !! so I'll do it tomorrow...there is just too much for me to type ... now if it was a photo needing to be restored .... i 'd have the patience of a Saint !lol

 

Start of Order of battle ...


Battles of the LYS 4TH YPRES APRIL 1918



2nd Cavalry Div Regular Brig Gen T T PITMAN
Battle of Hazebrouck14-15 /4/1918( Cav CORPS Second Army

3rd Cavalry Brigade Brig Gen J A BELL- SMITH
4TH QUEENS OWN HUSSARS
16TH (QUEENS ) LANCERS
5TH ROYAL IRISH LANCERS

4TH Cav Brgde Brig Gen C H RANKIN
6TH DRAGOON GUARDS
1ST QUEENS OWN OXFORDSHIRE HUSSARS
3RD KINGS OWN HUSSARS

5TH Cavalry Brigade Brig Gen N W HAIG
2ND DRAGOON ROYAL SCOTS GREYS
20TH HUSSARS
12 (PRINCE OF WALES) ROYAL LANCERS

1ST DIV (reg) MAJOR GEN EP STRICKLAND
Battles Estaires 9-11 April,(I Corps First army ;
Hazebrouck-15thApril (3RD BRIGADE WITH 55TH DIVISION (XI CORPS FIRST ARMY)
AND Bethune 18-19th April 1918 ( I CORPS First Army.

1ST BRIGADE Brig Gen W D THORNTON
1ST BLACK WATCH
1ST CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
1ST LOYAL NORTH LANCASHRES

2ND BRIGADE Brig Gen G C KELLY
2ND ROYAL SUSSEX
2ND KINGS ROYAL RIFLE CORPS
1ST NORTHAMPTONS

3RD BRIGADE BRIG GEN H H S MORANT
1ST SOUTH WALES BORDERES
2ND WELSH
1ST GLOUCESTERS
Pioneers 6th WELSH

3RD DIV (REG) MAJ GEN C J DEVERELL
Battles Estaires 9-11 April,(I Corps First Army ;
Hazebrouck 12-15th April
Bethune 18 April

8th BRIGADE BRIG GEN L A E PRICE-DAVIES V C to 12th April
BRIG GEN B D FISHER
2ND ROYAL SCOTS
1ST ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
7TH KINGS SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY

9TH BRIGADE, BRIG GEN H C POTTER
1st NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
13TH KINGS
4TH ROYAL FUSILIERS

76TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN C L PORTER
2ND SUFFOLKS
8TH KINGS OWN
1ST GORDON HIGHLANDERS
PIONEERS 20TH KINGS ROYAL RIFLE CORPS


4TH DIV REG) MAJ GEN T G MATHESON
Battles of Hazebrouch 13-15 April
Battle of Bethune 18 th April ,(I Corps First Army)

10Th BRIGADE BRIG GEN H W GREEN TO 16TH APRIL
BRIG GEN J GREENE
1ST ROYAL WARWICKSHIRES
2nd SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
2ND DUKE OF WELLINGTONS

11TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN T S H WADE
1ST SOMERSET LIGHT INFANTRY
1ST HAMPSHIRES
1ST RIFLE BRIGADE

12TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN E A FAGAN
1ST KINGS OWN
2ND ESSEX
2ND LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS
PIONEERS 21ST (WOOL TEXTILE PIONEERS )WEST YORKSHIRES


5TH DIVISION (REGULAR) MAJ GEN R B STEVENS
Battle of Hazebrouch 12-15 April

13TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN L O W JONES
2ND KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
1ST ROYAL WEST KENTS
14TH ( 1ST BIRMINGHAM PALS ) ROYAL WARWICKSHIRES
15TH ( 2ND BIRMINGHAM PALS ) ROYAL WARWICKSHIRES

15TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN R D F OLDMAN
1ST NORFOLKS
1ST CHESHIRES
1ST BEDFORDSHIRES
16TH ( 3RD BIRMINGHAM PALS ) ROYAL WARWICKSHIRES )

95 BRIGADE BRIG GEN LORD E C GORDON-LENNOX
1ST DEVONSHIRES
1ST DUKE OF CORNWALL’S LIGHT INFANTRY
1ST EAST SURREYS
12TH ( BRISTOL PALS) GLOUCESTERS
PIONEERS 1/6 (RENFREWSHIRE )ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS

6th DIVISION ( REGULAR) MAJOR GENERAL T. O. MARDEN
Battle of Bailleul 13 -15 April
1ST Battle Kemmel 17 -19 April
2nd Battle Kemmel 25-26 April
Battle of Scherpenberg 29 April

16TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN h a walker
1st BUFFS
2nd YORK AND LANCASTERS
1ST KING’S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY

18TH BRIGADE BRIG GEN G S G CRAUFURD
1ST WEST YORKSHIRES
11TH ESSEX
2ND DURHAM LIGHT INFANTRY

71ST BRIGADE BRIG GEN PW BROWN
1ST LEICESTERS
9TH NORFOLKS
2ND SHERWOOD FORRESTERS
PIONEERS ( 11TH LEICESTERS ( City of Leicester Pals )


WILL ADD MORE LATER ...

 

You're a brick Poll ... thank you !

Good night !

 

You're welcome Annie .. I shall just keep adding the info on the post that I have started by editing it and notify you when it is completed .. I have added more today for you ..
Poll

 

Poll

Thank You so much for your work.I now know what diaries to look for at Kew.

I'll be looking for the 12th Lancers and the Suffolk regiment first followed by the 1st and 3rd divisions (Did I spy a Northants regiment in there? ) given the suspected dates mentioned earlier in the thread.

I'll let you know what I find.

Glen

 

When are you hoping to go Glen .... you may need to take a sleeping bag and a flask ...

 

I got all excited ... then realised this is the wrong battalion !!!!!!!!

Royal Bavarian 5th Infantry

http://www.kb5ir.de/E_WW1.htm

( May as well post it in case it can help somebody else ! )

 

And a cut lunch as well as a cut dinner

I'll be going tomorrow. Thanks to your work, I've got tha catalogue references so I'll hopefully find something interesting

I've also got hold of the official history of British military operations between 27th March and 30th April AND IT'S NEARLY 2 INCHES THICK for just one month It does also include the French Order of Battle (to division level) so perhaps there'll be some high level communications between them to help build up a fuller picture of the situation.

Glen

 

You're a good man Gunga Din !!

Thank you very much ..... hope you find something ... fingers crossed !

Annie

 

From my "1915 Pocket Edition" of Kiplings Barrack Room Ballads...

And for those unfamiliar....

You may talk o' gin and beer
When you're quartered safe out 'ere,
An' you're sent to penny-fights an' Aldershot it;
But when it comes to slaughter
You will do your work on water,
An' you'll lick the bloomin' boots of 'im that's got it.
Now in Injia's sunny clime,
Where I used to spend my time
A-servin' of 'Er Majesty the Queen,
Of all them blackfaced crew
The finest man I knew
Was our regimental bhisti, Gunga Din.
He was "Din! Din! Din!
"You limpin' lump o' brick-dust, Gunga Din!
"Hi! Slippy hitherao!
"Water, get it! Panee lao
"You squidgy-nosed old idol, Gunga Din."

The uniform 'e wore
Was nothin' much before,
An' rather less than 'arf o' that be'ind,
For a piece o' twisty rag
An' a goatskin water-bag
Was all the field-equipment 'e could find.
When the sweatin' troop-train lay
In a sidin' through the day,
Where the 'eat would make your bloomin' eyebrows crawl,
We shouted " Harry By!"
Till our throats were bricky-dry,
Then we wopped 'im 'cause 'e couldn't serve us all.
It was "Din! Din! Din!
"You 'eathen, where the mischief 'ave you been?
"You put some juldee in it
"Or I'll marrow you this minute
"If you don't fill up my helmet, Gunga Din!"

'E would dot an' carry one
Till the longest day was done;
An' 'e didn't seem to know the use o' fear.
If we charged or broke or cut,
You could bet your bloomin' nut,
'E'd be waitin' fifty paces right flank rear.
With 'is mussick' on 'is back,
'E would skip with our attack,
An' watch us till the bugles made "Retire,"
An' for all 'is dirty 'ide
'E was white, clear white, inside
When 'e went to tend the wounded under fire!
It was "Din! Din! Din!"
With the bullets kickin' dust-spots on the green
When the cartridges ran out,
You could hear the front-ranks shout,
"Hi! ammunition-mules an' Gunga Din!"

I sha'n't forgit the night
When I dropped be'ind the fight
With a bullet where my belt-plate should 'a' been.
I was chokin' mad with thirst,
An' the man that spied me first
Was our good old grinnin', gruntin' Gunga Din.
'E lifted up my 'ead,
An' he plugged me where I bled, An' 'e guv me 'arf-a-pint o' water green.
It was crawlin' and it stunk,
But of all the drinks I've drunk,
I'm gratefullest to one from Gunga Din.
It was "Din! Din! Din!
"'Ere's a beggar with a bullet through 'is spleen"
"'E's chawin' up the ground,
"An' 'e's kickin' all around:
"For Gawd's sake git the water, Gunga Din!

'E carried me away
To where a dooli lay,
An' a bullet come an' drilled the beggar clean.
'E put me safe inside,
An' just before 'e died,
"I 'ope you liked your drink" sez Gunga Din.
So I'll meet 'im later on
At the place where 'e is gone
Where it's always double drill and no canteen.
'E'll be squattin' on the coals
Givin' drink to poor damned souls,
An' I'll get a swig in hell from Gunga Din!
Yes, Din! Din! Din!
You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din!
Though I've belted you and flayed you,
By the livin' Gawd that made you,
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!



bhisti - water-carrier
hitherao - come here
panee lao - bring water
Harry By - Brother
juldee - quickly
marrow - hit

 

oops...double post!

 

Scrim

I was one of the unfamiliar so thanks for that.

And I'd always thought I was called that as a nickname because my name started with 'G'

 

I had to recite that as a kid .... my Dad loved that poem !!!!!!!!

Had to stand in the middle of the living room floor and do it right !! and woe betide you if you messed up !!

Annie

 

I found this ... and I think theres some information we could use here ... except I can't read it !!!!!!

http://www.deutschland14-18.de/

We need a German speaking person to help us !

Annie