Canadians fighting in Singapore

Discussion in 'World War 2' started by sniper, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Hi All,

    Just taken on researching a memorial in Ontario and i have a casualty who served with 357 Sqn RAF though he was a Canadian. He died 15/3/44 and is remembered on the Singapore Memorial. Does anyone have any information on this Sqn around this time? Would he of been a POW? All i can find is that they flew Liberators and were formed in 1944 in India. Ah that answers a question, he couldn't of been a POW.
    Any info on this Sqn would be useful.
    Thanks all
    Sniper:peep:
     
  2. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Hi Sniper

    what's the name of the casualty. I've just taken down the two volume Burma Liberators: RCAF in SEAC. Whilst I flick through and get some notes ready for you could you post his CWGC details. He may be listed as a casualty in the book.

    In the meantime:

    Sqn Histories 353-361_P
     
  3. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Hi Kyt,

    Thanks for doing this. The details are:
    Name: PALMER, RICHARD BLAKE
    Initials: R B
    Nationality: Canadian
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Unit Text: 357 (R.A.F.) Sqdn
    Date of Death: 15/03/1944
    Service No: J/10015
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 441.
    Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

    Sniper :peep:
     
  4. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Hmmm, there is no specific loss listed in the book but it sounds like they were lost in a Hudson because the first Liberator missions did not occur until the 4th April 1944 (and no non-operational Liberator loss occurred on that date).

    Other men are listed on the CWGC for this date:

    Name: WILKINSON, JOSEPH
    Initials: J
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flight Sergeant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Unit Text: 357 Sqdn.
    Age: 25
    Date of Death: 15/03/1944
    Service No: 537086
    Additional information: Son of John James Wilkinson and Mary Wilkinson; nephew of Mr. T. Wilkinson, of Egremont, Cumberland.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 435.
    Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

    Name: PONSFORD, JAMES CECIL SPENCER
    Initials: J C S
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 357 Sqdn.
    Age: 44
    Date of Death: 15/03/1944
    Service No: 80801
    Additional information: Son of Spencer and Lilian Ponsford; husband of Helen Ponsford, of Comrie, Perthshire.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 431.
    Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

    Name: PATTERSON, LORNE
    Initials: L
    Nationality: Canadian
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Unit Text: 357 (R.A.F.) Sqdn
    Age: 32
    Date of Death: 15/03/1944
    Service No: J/8624
    Additional information: Son of David P. and Annie Patterson; husband of Dorothy L. Patterson.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 441.
    Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

    Name: OGILVIE, BRUCE ADAM
    Initials: B A
    Nationality: Canadian
    Rank: Pilot Officer
    Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Unit Text: 357 (R.A.F.) Sqdn
    Date of Death: 15/03/1944
    Service No: J/89408
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 444.
    Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL
     
  5. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Hi Sniper.

    I can't tie a specific loss to these men from the books I have. I have asked rafcommands for information because I know someof the guys have specific books detailing RCAF losses. I'll post any replies I get.
     
  6. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Thanks for looking Kyt, really appreciated.

    Not sure if i said before but there was some other guy doing the Didcot War Memorial and he's a little further on than i am, he's about to go to press in another few months. I've given him a load of information, in fact everything i have on the Didcot casualties. I've now started to do my wife's home town and as her father who is 89 this year remembers all of the WW2 and some of the WW1 casualties i thought it maybe the last chance to get some info on them from him. I'll post a full list up in time, trouble is with some of them they don't seem to exist in the town.
    Anyway night mate and thanks again
    Sniper
     
  7. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    No probs Sniper - sorry I couldn't have been of more help at this time. Will get back to you if I find more info.

    Night mate
     
  8. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

  9. Antipodean Andy

    Antipodean Andy New Member

    Wow, that's some truly amazing info and immediately got me thinking how those remains should be recovered.

    Stirring stuff re the month-long trek. An amazing story. Thanks Sniper and Kyt for bringing it to our attention.
     
  10. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    More unbelievable deeds of heroism for a wounded brother. They were only doing their duty however it was much more than that. Don't you think?
     
  11. morse1001

    morse1001 Guest

    Incredible story of heroism in the face of overwelming odds! its an example to us all!
     
  12. Antipodean Andy

    Antipodean Andy New Member

    It is at that. Anyone have that book with the "rich" detail of the trek?
     
  13. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Thanks for this Kyt, i have now joined RafCommands. Your right about the members being really knowledgable lot. Awesome.

    Thanks again

    Sniper :peep:
     
  14. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Don't i wish, lol. I'll have a look around and see if i can come up with it.

    Sniper :peep:
     
  15. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    Sniper,

    How is the book going on Beamsville War Memorial/Ontario?
     
  16. rlaughton

    rlaughton http://www.militarian.com/account/avatar

    I have an interesting little book if anyone is looking for WWI or WWII listed Canadians in the air force. They have to have been deemed a "true Canadian hero" to get in the book. Interestingly it is written by Arthur Bishop, son of Billy Bishop of Canadian WWI fame. Probably was researching his Dad and kept on going!

    Will look up anyone as needed or I can post a list of all those in the book?
     
  17. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    I have this book as well Richard and it is an absolutely great read. Again always willing to look up anything if anyone needs something.

    Sniper :peep:
     
  18. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Would that be The splendid hundred: The true story of Canadians who flew in the greatest air battle of World War II ?

    He himself served in 401 Squadron flying Spitfires
     
  19. rlaughton

    rlaughton http://www.militarian.com/account/avatar

    Different book, I had not heard of that one. Off to amazon.ca to have a look.
     
  20. sniper

    sniper Active Member

    Very slow at the moment Spidge. It looks like it won't be getting printed before my next trip over there in September. Good thing about that though is i'll be able to talk to the father in law who would of known most if not all of them. I'm going to have to get down to some serious research over the next few months thats for sure.

    How is your research going? If you'd like to send me an updated data sheet so i can check it and see if i have any of your missing guys.

    Sniper :peep:
     

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