250 MRU & 307 AMES Singapore

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  1. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    Anyone have any information on 250 MRU or 307 AMES in Singapore prior to the surrender on 15th Feb 1942. My father, Stanley Stewart Pyke, served with them from 6th Jan 1941. He was killed off Pompong Island when the Kuala was bombed. I am trying to get as much information about him as I never new him being only 6 month old when he was killed. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Hi Stan, and welcome to Chat

    250 MRU = Mobile Radio Unit
    307 AMES = Air Ministry Experimental Station

    Both were radar systems

    You may find this report of interest (be patient as it is a big file - 266 pages)

    http://www.radarreturns.net.au/archive/EchoesRRWS.pdf

     
  3. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    It sounds like the whole units were captured, with many dying in POW camps

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    307 AMES - POWS (including those who died)
    Surname First Names Service Rank Service No
    BALDWIN Ernest Edward John AF Cpl. 1163540
    BELL Frank Coyle AF A.C. 1/c 1101958
    BOUGOURD Lloyd Francis AF A.C. 2/c 552725
    CANARD Henry John AF Air. 907728
    CAPON Walter Stanley AF Air. 1256149
    CLEVES Stanley Irwin AF Cpl. 1071426
    DOWN Aubrey John AF L.A.C. 1084986
    HAYNES Edwin AF L.A.C. 1134761
    HORNE Charles William Bertram AF A.C. 2/c 1275851
    JONES Eirfin Lewis AF L.A.C. 974647
    JONES William Eric AF Cpl. 1018824
    KENNEY Lionel Meneer AF A.C. 1/c 1194732
    LADD Charles Henry AF Cpl. 924782
    LANDER Harry AF L.A.C. 1153813
    LLEWELLYN Harry Cuthbert AF Cpl. 1004392
    MAGGS John Reginald AF Cpl. 907800
    MAIR George AF A.C. 2/c 1366673
    McLELLAN Robert Crosbie AF A.C. 1/c 1367192
    MERRIMAN Ronald AF Air. 1014312
    MORLING Hugh Riches AF Air. 1209502
    NEWMAN Arthur Cyril AF L.A.C. 638073
    NOAKES Henry Thomas Alfred AF Cpl. 1133980
    NOTT Hubert William AF Air. 1375971
    RYDER Reginald Edward AF F/Off. 86907
    SPRIGGS Samuel Cecil AF Air. 1376263
    STEGGLES George William AF Air. 1174887
    SUTER Percival Rudolph AF A.C. 1/c 1375724
    WARDELL Maurice Thomas Holiday AF L.A.C. 1072655
    WILLIAMS Ronald Harry AF A.C. 1/c 1089246
    CARROLL Daniel P AF Cpl. 1154111
    PARROTT Gerald William AF Cpl. 969416
    DURNE Joseph Edward AF Air. 1123370
    PHILLIPS Dennis AF A.C. 2/c 1103174
    WATSON William Gemel AF Cpl. 1105454
    RICHARDS Bertram AF A.C. 1/c 1214865
     
  4. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    According to Unsung Heroes of the RAF - the Far Fast Prisoners of War by Stubbs and Stubbs, 250 MRU and 250 AMES were the same thing so the following list is correct:

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    Surname First Names Service Rank Service No
    BROADBENT Gerald B A Lt. 77799
    ARMSTRONG Ronald William AF No record 77799
    BAKER William AF L.A.C. 1101227
    BARLEY Albert AF L.A.C. 1173871
    BOOTH Harold Leslie AF A.C. 1/c 978946
    BOWLER Leonard Stanley AF L.A.C. 947573
    BRETT Alfred Clive AF Air. 1375782
    BROWN Henry Vivien AF L.A.C. 1180564
    BULLOCK Leslie William Matthew AF W.O. 2/c 915503
    COKER Arthur AF Air. 1261651
    DAVEY John Edwin AF Cpl. 915792
    DOBSON Frederick Harold AF L.A.C. 1169985
    GERRISH Albert Edward AF A.C. 1/c 1159920
    GREEN George Cyril AF A.C. 1/c 1274844
    GUNNER Ronald Charles Ernest AF L.A.C. 575627
    HAIG Edward Hugh Stuart AF Air. 1195599
    HALL James AF A.C. 1/c 1006471
    HARGEST Arthur James AF Cpl. 1165619
    HILL William Reid AF Sgt. 946736
    HODGKINSON Donald Christie AF Cpl. 992162
    HULL Trevor George AF Air. 1195308
    INGRAM Edward Albert AF A.C. 1/c 1108888
    JONES Raymond AF A.C. 1/c 991811
    KELLY Denis Matthew AF L.A.C. 970610
    LANSDOWNE Reuben Herbert AF Air. 1283315
    McGAHAN Terence Philip AF Cpl. 545748
    NETTLETON Hubert AF Cpl. 702301
    PHILLIPS Albert Percy AF L.A.C. 1182935
    PLEAVIN Basil AF Cpl. 968522
    REITH Alexander AF Air. 1179228
    RICHARDS William AF A.C. 1/c 1205627
    ROLPH Walter Arnold AF L.A.C. 940543
    SIMMONDS Albert Bernard AF L.A.C. 754741
    STARLING Eric Downs AF Cpl. 909248
    STRIKE Henry AF L.A.C. 981358
    VERRILL Addison William George AF Sgt. 550562
    WEBB James Henry AF A.C. 1/c 1002665
    WEBB Geoffrey Herbert George AF A.C. 1/c 1286184
    WHITE Joseph George AF L.A.C. 981363
    FRAZER Raymond AF L.A.C. 942533
    HALL Robert Arthur AF Cpl. 9011306
    McKENZIE Arthur Ashton AF L.A.C. 634144
    SAVIDGE James Windslade AF L.A.C. 907012

    Note that this list is of those who were taken POW (and those who died in captivity)
     
  5. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    Hi Kyt,

    Thanks for the quick reply, very informative. Certainly answers a few queries. Picked the bones out of it and will get it all read in the near future. I know he was not taken prisoner and was believed drowned. Going to Pompong for the 14th Feb next year.

    Cheers,

    Stan
     
  6. liverpool annie

    liverpool annie New Member

    Hi Stan and welcome !

    Is this him ?

    In Memory of
    Corporal STEWART PYKE

    550881, Royal Air Force
    who died
    on 14 February 1942
    Son of Ezra and Amelia Pyke; husband of Jessie Beattie Pyke, of St. Cyrus, Kincardineshire.
    Remembered with honour
    SINGAPORE MEMORIAL
     
  7. liverpool annie

    liverpool annie New Member

    SS Kuala - left 13.02.42 at about the same time as Mata Hari and Vyner Brook. Bomb damaged while waiting to leave Singapore, 2 killed and buried at sea, many casualties. Sunk by bombing while at anchor off Pompong island. 14.02.42. Many searing survivor stories
    5/600 people on board including most of Public Works Department, RAF Radio Location Unit with gear, various troops and women and children of many nationalities, large group of nurses and 5, IWM-S says 7 women doctors, ordered to leave.

    The digitised copy of the 1943 Bulletin of the Malayan Research Bureau in the National Archives of Australia (see NB 2 above) contains a list of 77 names of people whom Japanese Radio claimed to have taken prisoner, after they had sunk Tandjong Pinang on 16/02/42. Tandjong Pinang was heading for Australia, carrying women and children from Pom Pong Island, who had already survived the sinking of their escape ships, including Kuala. There were very, very few survivors of the sinking, so the question remains of how Japanese Radio got hold of the list. It could have been a cruel piece of propaganda or psychological warfare.

    COFEPOW - Civilian Internees & Evacuees - Women & Children Evacuees
     
  8. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    Hi liverpool annie,

    Thanks for the reply. Yes that is him, I have been to Kranji and seen the Memorial, very moving when you can eventually take it all in. I know from reports and the communications my mother got that he was suspected drowned. My mother can't remember very much, at 93 her memory is not so good these days, and she didn't get much back them.

    I am trying to make up for lost time especially now there is a lot more info around on the net and available thru the various archives. His service records answered a lot of questions but then generated some new ones, the reason for this posting.

    Thanks again,

    Stan
     
  9. Antipodean Andy

    Antipodean Andy New Member

    Welcome Stan. Glad to see you've had some great help already.
     
  10. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    Anyone have any other info on Cpl Stanley Stewart Pyke

    Hi All,

    I was wondering it anyone knows of the whereabouts of any survivers from 250 MRU or 307 AMES. I would dearly love to talk to anyone who knew my father, just to find out something about him. I have photos, service record and what my mother can tell me but nothing else. Any info would be appreciated before it is too late.

    Thanks all for your help,

    Stan Pyke
     
  11. liverpool annie

    liverpool annie New Member


    I suppose you've already tried here Stan ?

    COFEPOW - Children of Far East Prisoners of War

    If it was me ... I would systematically go through the list of POW's that Kyt gave you ... !! or I'd find everything I could on SS Kuala to see if you can find anything to give you clues .... it's a very time intensive job .... but you may get lucky !

    Or write to local papers ( where he enlisted etc ! )

    Annie :)
     
  12. Hugh

    Hugh New Member

    Fall of Singapore

    Hello Stan,

    Probably not much here for you but I offer anyway.

    SS KUALA official number 135004 built in 1911 for the Straits Steamship Co.

    The ship had skilfully avoided seventeen aerial attacks before a bomb scored a direct hit on the bridge and saloon, penetrating the engine room and splitting the boiler. It was every man, and woman, for themselves. Survivors swam from the burning wreck to Pompong Island, but not content with sinking the KUALA, the planes continued to bombard survivors in the water.

    The ship that rescued survivors and was herself sunk was the 133-ton ferry boat ss TANJONG PINANG and there is a file at the British National Archives in piece WO 361/462


    Regards
    Hugh
     
  13. Kyt

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  14. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    Hi Annie, Hugh & Kyt,

    Thanks for the links, I had read them already but I had not tried the COFEPOW as he was not a POW. I am sending off to join them and will post there too.

    I would like to find out if Dr (Sdn/Ldr) Thomas Carter, who I believe was his boss, is still alive.

    Thanks,

    Stan
     
  15. Stan P

    Stan P New Member

    8 FTS Montrose

    Hi all,

    I hope you had a good Christmas, and are looking forward to the New Year.

    Firstly to answer my last question, I have found and spoken to Dr T C Carter, and I am now awaiting some more details from him.

    My next request is for information on 8 FTS at Montrose and the site at St Cyrus during the war but I will open a new thread on that.

    Thanks,

    Stan
     

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