Australian Deaths in the RAAF/RAF. How did they occur? - South Africa

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  1. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    Australian Deaths in the RAAF/RAF. How did they occur? - South Africa

    The reason for these threads is to have the official cause of death for these flyers if known, the number of the aircraft and to supply all detail and crew listings if available.

    DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY

    LANE, THOMAS HENRY TESTON
    Flight Sergeant
    408285
    262sq
    25/06/1943
    29
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Block F. Grave 401.
    DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Kwazulu Natal

    SOADY, ALBERT FRANCIS
    Sergeant
    14635
    268sq
    25/06/1943
    30
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Block F. Grave 382.
    DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Kwazulu Natal

    WHITE, FREDERICK NORMAN CROXFORD
    Flying Officer
    401331
    202sq
    25/06/1943
    27
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Block F. Grave 380.
    DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Kwazulu Natal

    EAST LONDON (EAST BANK) CEMETERY

    FRASER, DOUGLAS IAN
    Pilot Officer
    402498
    41 Air School SAAF
    1/02/1942
    22
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Sec. 11C. Grave 749.
    EAST LONDON (EAST BANK) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Eastern Cape

    TIGHE, THOMAS EDWARD DENIS
    Leading Aircraftman
    401472
    41 Air School SAAF
    1/02/1942
    22
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Sec.11C. Grave 749W.
    EAST LONDON (EAST BANK) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Eastern Cape

    GEORGE (YORK STREET) PRESBYTERIAN CEMETERY

    SUTHERLAND, HUGH MURRAY
    Pilot Officer
    401157
    61 AIR School SAAF
    22/11/1941
    23
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    Grave 4.
    GEORGE (YORK STREET) PRESBYTERIAN CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Western Cape

    PORT ELIZABETH (SOUTH END) CEMETERY

    STARCK, PERCY W J.(MSM)
    Flight Sergeant
    95168V 41 Air School SAAF
    23/12/1943
    48
    Royal Australian Air Force
    Australian
    H Extension. Grave 5S.
    PORT ELIZABETH (SOUTH END) CEMETERY
    South Africa
    Eastern Cape
     
  2. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    Bringing this back to the top now that names are added.
     
  3. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    Durban (stellawood) cemetery

    LANE, THOMAS HENRY TESTON / Flight Sergeant / 408285 / 262sq / 25/06/1943 / 29
    Block F. Grave 401. DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY South Africa Kwazulu Natal

    SOADY, ALBERT FRANCIS /Sergeant / 14635 / 268sq / 25/06/1943 / 30
    Block F. Grave 382. DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY South Africa Kwazulu Natal

    WHITE, FREDERICK NORMAN CROXFORD / Flying Officer / 401331 / 202sq / 25/06/1943 / 27
    Block F. Grave 380. DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY South Africa Kwazulu Natal


    Catalina IB FP265; Place - St Lucia Lake, Natal (Congella - St Lucia Bay - Sea off South Africa). 7.10pm

    Other RAAF crewmember - JENKINS, Ronald Frank - (Flight Sergeant); Service Number – 416122 – only body not recovered. (ALAMEIN MEMORIAL) - A.F. T. A. (I don’t know what this means)

    OTHER CREW KILLED IN CRASH -

    RAF 1554944 SGT ROBERT PENMON KAY - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    RAF 575076 SGT ARTHUR JOHN MILLS - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    RAF 1293579 SGT RICHARD THOMAS CORK - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    RAF 1293709 SGT TREVOR JOHN BURRINGTON - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
     
  4. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    East london (east bank) cemetery

    Although a Dominion, South Africa was not a signatory to the BCATP and the South African Air Force (SAAF) did not form any Article XV squadrons (unlike Australia, New Zealand and Canada). However, South Africa made similar arrangements regarding training and personnel. SAAF units took part in the East African, North African and Italian Campaigns. As the war progressed, personnel from other Dominion air forces served in SAAF units and vice versa.

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    FRASER, DOUGLAS IAN / Pilot Officer / 402498 / 41 Air School SAAF / 1/02/1942 / 22
    Sec. 11C. Grave 749. EAST LONDON (EAST BANK) CEMETERY South Africa Eastern Cape

    TIGHE, THOMAS EDWARD DENIS / LAC / 401472 / 41 Air School SAAF / 1/02/1942 / 22
    Sec.11C. Grave 749W. EAST LONDON (EAST BANK) CEMETERY South Africa Eastern Cape

    Avro Anson Mk X 1212; Place - Cape Province, South Africa (not East London, South Australia as it says on one file heading for Tighe)

    OTHER CREW KILLED IN CRASH -

    DAVIS, C P – (2nd Lieutenant); Service Number – 103953 SAAF - South African Air Force
    PORTNELL, Edward – (Leading Aircraftman); Service Number – 1046323 RAF
    SHENFIELD, JAMES DAVID – (Leading Aircraftman); Service Number – 1384353 RAF

    (Second Lieutenant Davis SAAF was most probably the instructor)
     
  5. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    George (york street) presbyterian cemetery

    Not much for this member -

    SUTHERLAND, HUGH MURRAY / Pilot Officer / 401157 / 61 AIR School SAAF / 22/11/1941 / 23
    Grave 4. GEORGE (YORK STREET) PRESBYTERIAN CEMETERY South Africa Western Cape


    Aircraft - unknown; Place - Herolds Bay, South Africa; Date - 22 November 1941


    (no info on other crew - which would have helped)


    (I wonder if it is possible to work out what aircraft type this school used as an flight instructor?)
     
  6. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    Port Elizabeth (South End) cemetery - STARCK

    STARCK, PERCY W J. (MSM) / Flight Sergeant / 95168V / 41 Air School SAAF / 23/12/1943 / 48
    H Extension. Grave 5S. PORT ELIZABETH (SOUTH END) CEMETERY South Africa Eastern Cape


    Not an Australian. This one appears to be from a database error on the CWGC website search. The header states:

    001
    STARCK PWJ 95168V - 23/12/1943 ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE

    but when you look into the listing he comes up as:

    Casualty Details
    Name: STARCK, PERCY W J.
    Initials: P W J
    Nationality: South African
    Rank: Flight Sergeant
    Regiment/Service: South African Air Force
    Age: 48
    Date of Death: 23/12/1943
    Service No: 95168V
    Awards: M S M
    Additional information: Son of Mathias G Starck and Maria E Starck; husband of Doris L L Starck, of Jeffreys Bay.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: H Extension. Grave 5S.
    Cemetery: PORT ELIZABETH (SOUTH END) CEMETERY
     
  7. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    Good pick up Dave! I will delete it.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  8. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    From: BBC - WW2 People's War - RAF Training in Southern Africa

     
  9. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    DAVIS, C P – (2nd Lieutenant); Service Number – 103953 SAAF - South African Air Force
    Son of Charles N Davis and Violet Davis, of Sandown, Johannesburg.

    PORTNELL, Edward – (Leading Aircraftman); Service Number – 1046323 RAFVR
    Son of Edward W. S. and Annie Helena Portnells, of Hexham, Northumberland, England.

    SHENFIELD, JAMES DAVID – (Leading Aircraftman); Service Number – 1384353 RAF
    No NOK details
     
  10. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    OTHER CREW KILLED IN CRASH -

    RAF 1554944 SGT ROBERT PENMON KAY - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    Son of John and Mary Helen Kay, of Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland; husband of Margaret Lynn Kay, of Denny.

    RAF 575076 SGT ARTHUR JOHN MILLS - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    Son of Gilbert John and Nellie Mills, of Hinckley, Leicestershire, England.

    RAF 1293579 SGT RICHARD THOMAS CORK - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    Son of Mr and Mrs R.Cork, of Dagenham, Essex, England.

    RAF 1293709 SGT TREVOR JOHN BURRINGTON - DURBAN (STELLAWOOD) CEMETERY
    Son of Lt.Col. Rupert Burrington M.B.E. and Gladys Burrington, of Bitterne Park, Southampton, England.

    View attachment 3510
     
  11. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    SUTHERLAND, HUGH MURRAY / Pilot Officer / 401157 / 61 AIR School SAAF / 22/11/1941 /

    Good info on the training school / aircraft - assuming he died in an aircraft accident there would be other casualties.

    I will keep an eye on the newspaper archive as they have just digitised another batch including this death notice header -

    Family Notices
    The Argus (Melbourne,... Thursday 27 November 1941, page 4. Family Notices 3295 words
    ... Kerang Victoria - DEATHS On Active Service SUTHERLAND - On November 24 (result of accident in South Africa) Pilot Officer Hugh Murray Sutherland RAAF beloved youngest son of Mr and Mrs John Sutherland...


    When they have cleared the full listing it may show more detail like names of other crew or if it was a ground accident etc


    {But before OTU was a posting to the Maritime Reconnaissance Course at No. 61 Air School (SAAF) at George, Cape Province in South Africa. The flying there concentrated on sea navigation using dead reckoning and astro-navigation. Ship and aircraft recognition mainly concerned the Japanese navy and air force, indicating our final destination to be Coastal Command in the Far East war. We flew in Avro Ansons as navigators, equipped with wireless operators and pigeons in case of red on blue, the next stop being the South Pole. The operational area was between Cape Town and Port Elizabeth. All shipping rounding the Cape was logged and photographed and a look-out kept for U-boats heading for the Indian Ocean.}
     
  12. RossGmann

    RossGmann New Member

    AUS 401157 P/O Hugh Murray SUTHERLAND RAAF, drowned whilst bathing at Herold's Bay, near. George on 22-11-1941. Sutherland had completed his training in Southern Rhodesia and had been posted to No.61 Air School, George, for further training.

    This information was supplied by a COL BRUGGY; from another Web site

    Kind regards Ross
     
  13. Dave Barlow

    Dave Barlow Member

    Thanks Ross


    DaveB
     

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