Slaughter At Sea: The Story Of Japan's Naval War Crimes

Discussion in 'World War 2' started by Kyt, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Alive and safe, the brutal Japanese soldiers who butchered 20,000 Allied seamen in cold blood

     
  2. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    This is what I call justice:

     
  3. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Sweet. Bet he thought he was home and safe. Still got off better than his victims - due process, proper trial, and professional execution, rather than just being butchered.
     
  4. Hugh

    Hugh New Member

    Behar

    Rear Admiral SAKONJI NAOMASSA who ordered the BEHAR massacre was found guilty of war crimes in 1947 and hung. Captain of the TONE, Capt. MAYAZUMI HARUO was sentenced to 7 years in prison as in his defense he explained he had protested against his orders. ISHIHARA TAKANORI, the ships Master at Arms who through chain of command passed down the bulk of the executions to his Assistant Master at Arms, was set to go to trial but this was halted and no charges pressed as US political intervention by General MacArthur's HQ wanted to stop these war crimes trials, as it was trying to turn Japan into a western style democracy. By 1949 this was also backed by the British government and no further cases of the BEHAR massacre were brought before any war crimes court.

    Regards
    Hugh
     
  5. Antipodean Andy

    Antipodean Andy New Member

    So, despite the US and the UK stopping the war crimes styles by 1949, the Australian government still hunted down Nishimura in 1951. Good on 'em!
     
  6. morse1001

    morse1001 Guest

    It is very sad to read of the horrific barbarity of the japanese armed forces.


    One has to ask, how do those who ordered the massacres and survived, justify their behavior?

    I am on the Pen & Sword mailing list and have a booklet with special offers, I will have to see if I can get a copy from them or some other book shop.
     
  7. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    The saying "never look a gift horse in the mouth" may have been appropriate.

    Imagine the look on his face when he was snatched.
     
  8. CTNana

    CTNana Active Member

    I am a pacifist. I sometimes read what I read with varying measures of morbid fascination, humility, sorrow and pride. I'm not aware that I carry any prejudices and I'm trying really hard to see the bigger picture here, but how did not prosecuting these evil ? (can't think of a polite word) help to bring a modern style democracy to Japan?

    I was mildly persuaded by Kyt's arguments about there being evidence of a desire for peace in Japan and that it was therefore not necessary to have dropped the atomic bombs. If we are supposed to accept that these acts, whilst inhumanly barbaric to us, were part of a culture that thought it more honourable to die than surrender, hence captured allied personnel (including civilians?) had already lost their honour as humans, and were therefore not worthy of humane treatment, how can we believe that a surrender could have been negotiated peaceably?

    One often hears that there are pockets of underground nazis still in Germany. Are there still comparable groups in Japan?
     
  9. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Just like in post-war Germany, politics played a great part. One of the most infamous cases in post-war Japan was the decision not to prosecute, or infact take virually any action against the Japanese bilogical testing Unit 731:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
    (please be aware that some of the details are horrific)

    Have a read of the section on after the surrender and the pasrt MacArthur played.

    The oft quoted Bushido code, which is used as both a defence and a stick to beat the Japanese with, has often been mistakenly been taken to have a linear history in Japanese culture. In fact, by WW1 it had basically died out in Japan.It was actually reintroduced by the Japanese nationalists (neo-fascists actually) as part of their militarisation of Japan.:

    The history of Bushido:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido

    Bushido & WW2:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/japan_no_surrender_04.shtml

    There are overt and covert levels of "nostelgia" for want of a better word. The most obvious overt lack of recognition of Japanese wrong doing is the way that Japanese schools still fail to teach the true nature of Japanese activities during WW2. This is also apparent in the way that Japanese pliticians still refuse to make explicit apologies to their many victims. Another is their annual prescence at the Yasukuni Shrine, which has a much greater significance in relation to WW2 than, say the Cenotaph. This is because, linked with the countries refusal to fully acknowledge their past, they also have many war criminals commerated on the shrine.

    Covertly, there are a number of right-wing organisations that still hark back to the past, some neo-nazi in style, others who want the role of the Emperor to be resurrected to his former position of god-leader.

    However, one of the most right wing Japanese individuals was Yukio Mishima

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishima_Yukio

    BTW, I am just about to add a link to the Did Japan deserve the bomb thread.
     

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